Medical form

[Benelli m2]

This new medical for for the doctor do the police send it to you to take to the doctor or do the police send it to the doctor direct to fill out

 

[huntsman81]

The Police will contact your GP

 

[Benelli m2]

The Police will contact your GP

Ok thanks

 

[huntsman81]

Watch out for your GP trying to charge you money for filling in the form

 

[Benelli m2]

Watch out for your GP trying to charge you money for filling in the form

Think it's £60 I've heard

 

[Everlong]

Think it's £60 I've heard

Varies wildly from practice to practice

 

[Benelli m2]

I don't mind paying £60 for 5 years works out at a few pence a month

 

[Mike L]

£1 a month

 

[Highlandsjohn]

In Scotland all paperwork is sent to the applicant,including the medical questionnaire (tick form). You pass it to your GP,who completes it and sends it directly to the police. The GP may contact you for a fee to complete it. No FAC will be issued without the form..

 

[Davee]

In Lincolnshire you have to download it, print, take to the quack and pay for it, BEFORE they will read your FAC application.

 

[Highlandsjohn]

In Lincolnshire you have to download it, print, take to the quack and pay for it, BEFORE they will read your FAC application.

It will only get worse as they try to wear us down,continuity be dammed..

 

[kes]

BASC take note - your members will be subject to the same process - at least those who pay £60 can cancel their membership and be no worse off and that, I would strongly advise them to do.


PUBLISH THE ADVICE.

 

[Muirmains]

The full problem with this is doctors are left wing they dont like shooting. My doctor said more or less only police and army should have guns. I have hear of cases where a woman has been to her doctor about hormonal woman things . The doctor fill out the form say do not grant she has mood swings . This is what your dealing with and the fact that an appeal is going to cost around ,£20k the police know this . That's why they do thing they do. Shooting orbs insurance is not worth the paper it's written on. That case above they would not honor that if it was refused because that's in the realm of mental health. That case above was told to me by a inspector in firearms .they did not refuse it because his words did not want a group of women outside his work with placards but it shows you what the doctors are up too.

 

[Highlandsjohn]

That's a broad brush you paint with. My GP is 1) not anti shooting 2) not left wing. Reading your post I really do dispair where some gather their information. Carry on..

 

[Island]

The full problem with this is doctors are left wing they dont like shooting. My doctor said more or less only police and army should have guns. I have hear of cases where a woman has been to her doctor about hormonal woman things . The doctor fill out the form say do not grant she has mood swings . This is what your dealing with and the fact that an appeal is going to cost around ,£20k the police know this . That's why they do thing they do. Shooting orbs insurance is not worth the paper it's written on. That case above they would not honor that if it was refused because that's in the realm of mental health. That case above was told to me by a inspector in firearms .they did not refuse it because his words did not want a group of women outside his work with placards but it shows you what the doctors are up too.

Likewise above my doctor is neither left-wing nor anti-shooting, I fear that your sweeping generalisation of the medical profession may be a little harsh....

The point in the medical checks is that your doctor is not being asked their personal views on shooting, so whether they believe that "only police and army should have guns" matters not a jot.

In the case you describe I would double check with the "inspector in firearms" that he wasn't just talking because he liked the sound of his own voice.

A doctor is not asked whether a certificate should be issued, they are requested to verify if the applicant has ever suffered from, or been treated for, a specific list of conditions and if the answer is yes, then provide factual, medical details.

I am currently going through my renewal and the list that I presented to the doctors surgery when I dropped the paperwork off did not include "going through the menopause" (which is what one assumes you mean by "hormonal woman things"?), it did however include conditions such as bipolar disorder or anxiety, which can manifest as mood swings.

To claim that it would be impossible to fight a refusal on grounds (specifically) of the menopause because it is in the realms of "mental health" and would therefore not be funded by any insurance cover are, quite frankly, ludicrous.

Likewise are claims that the police would refuse to refuse (if that makes sense) because they were worried of a feminist backlash.

Finally, I must have missed the bit where your story shows "what the doctors are up to"? Could you perhaps explain?

 

[mealiejimmy]

The full problem with this is doctors are left wing they dont like shooting. My doctor said more or less only police and army should have guns. I have hear of cases where a woman has been to her doctor about hormonal woman things . The doctor fill out the form say do not grant she has mood swings . This is what your dealing with and the fact that an appeal is going to cost around ,£20k the police know this . That's why they do thing they do. Shooting orbs insurance is not worth the paper it's written on. That case above they would not honor that if it was refused because that's in the realm of mental health. That case above was told to me by a inspector in firearms .they did not refuse it because his words did not want a group of women outside his work with placards but it shows you what the doctors are up too.

Maybe your doctor is left wing and anti shooting.
I don't know what my GPs politics and views and shooting are - I do know that she is a professional and does not let her politics or personal likes and dislikes influence her medical judgement.
My experience is that neither I nor my daughter were asked to pay for the completion of the form required by Police Scotland.
In addition, the GP was fully supportive of my daughters application for an SGC despite her having had anxiety/depression issues in the past.

Cheers

Bruce

 

[Oracle]

One of the shoots I pick up on, the syndicate is entirely composed of doctors, surgeons, consultants and dentists. Many of them are also avid deer stalkers. They are friendly, knowledgable, discerning guns which makes my life a lot easier on shoot days

 

[Muirmains]

Likewise above my doctor is neither left-wing nor anti-shooting, I fear that your sweeping generalisation of the medical profession may be a little harsh....

The point in the medical checks is that your doctor is not being asked their personal views on shooting, so whether they believe that "only police and army should have guns" matters not a jot.

In the case you describe I would double check with the "inspector in firearms" that he wasn't just talking because he liked the sound of his own voice.

A doctor is not asked whether a certificate should be issued, they are requested to verify if the applicant has ever suffered from, or been treated for, a specific list of conditions and if the answer is yes, then provide factual, medical details.

I am currently going through my renewal and the list that I presented to the doctors surgery when I dropped the paperwork off did not include "going through the menopause" (which is what one assumes you mean by "hormonal woman things"?), it did however include conditions such as bipolar disorder or anxiety, which can manifest as mood swings.

To claim that it would be impossible to fight a refusal on grounds (specifically) of the menopause because it is in the realms of "mental health" and would therefore not be funded by any insurance cover are, quite frankly, ludicrous.

Likewise are claims that the police would refuse to refuse (if that makes sense) because they were worried of a feminist backlash.

Finally, I must have missed the bit where your story shows "what the doctors are up to"? Could you perhaps explain?

I am just tell you what inspector pettie told me police scotland . It was him who said that. doctors try to misrepresent info so it could be viewed in a bad light the police told me that they were well aware of that.it must just be me all the doctors in my practice are anti gun but it seem alot of yours are deer stalker ect oh well I just tell the truth not invent it.

 

[Island]

I am just tell you what inspector pettie told me police scotland . It was him who said that. doctors try to misrepresent info so it could be viewed in a bad light the police told me that they were well aware of that.it must just be me all the doctors in my practice are anti gun but it seem alot of yours are deer stalker ect oh well I just tell the truth not invent it.

The requirement is quite clear. Doctors are asked for factual medical information, not for an opinion. Their personal opinions on private ownership of firearms is irrelevant.

I should also wager that if Police Scotland are discussing individual applicants with others then they will likely find themselves in breach of data protection policies...

 

[Muirmains]

The requirement is quite clear. Doctors are asked for factual medical information, not for an opinion. Their personal opinions on private ownership of firearms is irrelevant.

I should also wager that if Police Scotland are discussing individual applicants with others then they will likely find themselves in breach of data protection policies...

Listen that was said colin shedden was there as well. Hes never said mrs x y or what ever he was just recalling a story. Police Scotland do as they please. I was there because of a creative doctor not tell the facts.i was told not to change doctors as they had to write to them . He also said if I had £1 for everytime I heard that. Change doctors. What people do and what the form says are 2 different things. I only trying to tells yous. If you think I am making it up up to yous.