I think that the bottom line to all this is that regardless of how well the rifle is capable of shooting, you now have no confidence in it.
That will always bother you for as long as you keep it.
My new custom rifle is driving me crazy, help needed!
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That will always bother you for as long as you keep it.
Brave Echo Niner
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Why not try it with a brake, see if that sorts your issues?
If it does then you know it’s a recoil issue, which can be mitigated by either improving your shooting technique, stock choice, using a lighter loaded ammunition or choosing to use a muzzle device.
I would put money on this making a drastic difference, as I suspect it’s all in this being a lighter platform with a fairly traditional design stock causing poor recoil control in field positions.
If it does then you know it’s a recoil issue, which can be mitigated by either improving your shooting technique, stock choice, using a lighter loaded ammunition or choosing to use a muzzle device.
I would put money on this making a drastic difference, as I suspect it’s all in this being a lighter platform with a fairly traditional design stock causing poor recoil control in field positions.
TringSaint
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And maybe try some different ammo. Hot rounds can open up if the barrel and bullet combo don’t get on.
Brave Echo Niner
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I'm inclined to say the ammo is not the problem as he is printing good groups off the bench!
randello88
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It’s not exactly a traditional stock, it’s a manners eh4. My other rifle which is much more consistent has a traditional stock (its a bergara b14 hunter)
randello88
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The ammo is not the problem but the rifle actually kicks pretty hard for a 308 and recoil is making the bipod jump quite a bit. I get very good groups even (i would say only) with the bipod jumping. As far as the backpack the recoil is less jumpy but apparently for whatever reason when shooting from a backpack (something i did for years) with this rifle there is a very severe inconsistency of zero (or better, a poi shift)
Brave Echo Niner
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Apologies that is more a definition thing - I’m terming traditional in terms of a more hunter style stock as a pose to a tactical or hybrid stock, like a McMillan A5 or a McMillan Game Scout.
TringSaint
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But they seem to open up, so maybe excessive heat in the barrel creating a poor fit.
Hey, the rifle sounds like a picky diva, but my ammo maker always focuses on accuracy rather than pushing velocity.
randello88
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We can’t buy moderators here in Italy unfortunately and using a muzzle brake would be a PITA for the need of using ear protection while hunting
randello88
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That’s true but this ammo is both very accurate and fast, coincidentially, difficult to ditch an ammunition capable of those groups just because the rifle is too picky on position.. i also already bought more than 1k euros of this ammo..
maybe i should make the chassis contact to action checked
you’re shooting an unmoderated 308 without ear protection?? No surprises you’ve got a flinch.
8 pages now. As a dozen or more folk have said, there is no issue with the rifle but you’re determined to find one to convince yourself it’s not you.
Give up and move on.
But 60 odd perfect shots on roe out to 250-300m (sorry CBA to check back on your various claims) sounds like you’re living in cloud cuckoo land to me. Or your definition of “perfect” is different to mine.
Heym SR20
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Kicks pretty bad = poor stock fit. Sort that out to fit you well it will shoot well for you.
This might be the only SD thread where the Op bemones a certain rifle's ability to produce sub-MOA grouping but can only furnish the membership with multiple copy targets given of bug-hole size scrutiny.
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I’ve just seen this, and a later post that you aren’t able to use a moderator.
That’s a very large part of your problem: this is kicking the sh*t out of you. Chances are you have a nasty flinch by now to add to the issue.
I shot an unmoderated .308, with very hot 168gr loads for a while. If I wasn’t very careful, it grouped like a shotgun, and I certainly had to make sure I didn’t shoot more than a few at a time.
Dial down the loads - try 123gr for a bit, just to build up confidence and consistency.
randello88
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One of the few things I am sure about is that I don’t have any flinch..
I shot deer at 300 but with another rifle, with the one i was talking about i never shot at that distance. Actually i shot at 312 m with the rifle of my brother once if you are interested. My rifle has no ballistic turrets so that’s why i never shot past 250. That said, i appreciate you talking the time to check my “claims”. Maybe I am just spoiled by the extreme consistency of all my other rifles comparse to this one, especially the one inused hunting for years. To me it seems totally normal not to miss deer, i shot only when i am sure almost 100% i am gonna hit the target i am shooting to, at least when it is breathing.
Maybe i live in a bubble as someone said, it’s ok.
Our definition of perfect is set by our standards i guess
I don’t know why you are talking it so personal with this behaviour.. man there is no problem, you already said what you think and i heard it well, no reason to get upset and attack me personally alluding I am making false claims or that i flinch when it’s pretty clear I am not. Look, i am not here to brag or anything, i will never meet anyone on this forum in real life and i am just a random name here, in order to come here to make false claims I should have serious self confidence issues.
Nothing personal 75, see you in another thread maybe
randello88
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That’s interesting, actually even if behind the bipod the rifle feels very stable, it feels a bit chunky and the check weld is not so natural (chin weld actually). Yes the recoil is pretty unmamagable for me which is surprising vicino the average mild recoil of a 308. That was a very good suggestion, apparently 8 pages of theead are worth it!
Thanks my friend
randello88
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Copy targets? What does it mean?
If you send me your email i will send you all
The groups i did in the last 4 weeks, i tool pics of any of them. I can also send you the pics of any single deer i took and you will
Be able to see shot placement. I can also give you the contact of my control center and ask them if i ever had to call help for a wounded animal and how many times i came home empty handed in the last years (i think 3 or 4)
I have a folder with every hunting related pic inside, it will be a fast process
i am sorry if these groups seem to be so unimaginable to you
So your idea is that someone ask for help for some possible problems with a rifle just to make up some false claims about groups at the range.. wow man, that’s some weird reasoning process. Usually when someone thinks bad of other people, he is looking at what he would do himself, i know this very well being a psychiatrist. I hope it’s not your case
Take care
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randello88
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Ok so being attacked personally for no reason like often happens on forums, i have to accept that the thread degenerated. i thank everyone for the support, you have been very helpful giving me a external perspective and also giving me some very good ideas in a very frustrating moment of my shooting “career”.
Take care guys and good hunting!
Greetings from Italy
Take care guys and good hunting!
Greetings from Italy
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