6pt-sika
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Look at the links I posted above . Those were anywhere from $20,000-60,000 American .
Paradox and fully rifled
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6pt-sika
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They made rifled A-Bolts in two distinctly different times with almost a ten year gap in between . I had one from the first run in what they called “Stalker” configuration meaning synthetic stock and more of a matte blue . It shot well with factory loaded sabot slugs but not was well as a Savage 210F I had at the same time . Think the Browning cost me about $650 and the Savage was $350 at that time . I bought both new from a gunshop .
enfieldspares
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Pine Marten Fiocchi load a dispersing load I think. I've seen the French Manufrance guns with both barrels "rayé" and those with the first barrel only. Snipe as you likely know were a English #8 and you either took a guess and shot as they jinked or let them get some lee and settle down and put the choke barrel on them. I haven't been out to intentionally shoot snipe for maybe twenty-six years and the last time I was present on a shoot when one was hot was maybe eight or so years ago.
If you wanted you could handload a handful of homemade dispersing loads by simply using two card discs to divide the load into three tiers? But here's the good news....FABARM still produce not only rifled chokes but also fixed rifled choke shotguns both OU and SBS. Some say these rifled chokes on the continent were not per se for woodcock but for ferret bolted rabbits.
If you wanted you could handload a handful of homemade dispersing loads by simply using two card discs to divide the load into three tiers? But here's the good news....FABARM still produce not only rifled chokes but also fixed rifled choke shotguns both OU and SBS. Some say these rifled chokes on the continent were not per se for woodcock but for ferret bolted rabbits.
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enfieldspares
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Lastly on the Manufrance a supplementary letter E as in Model 28E meant ejector and a supplementary S meant "supra" or rifled. So there was not only a Model 28S but if it had ejectors too also a Model 28ES. But if you'd a Model 28 you'd just a standard baseline non ejector with both barrels smoothbored. Note on the advertisement it states "le tir du lapin au déboulé, celui de la bécasse" so yes bolted rabbits indeed.
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alberta boy
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I was referring to the Savage 212's …….. at least I could afford one of those lol .
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Pine Marten
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A quick search on Naturabuy shows a few brands for dispersing cartridges, mainly by using an X-shaped thingy on top of the wad. I searched for 16b because that's the gun I'm thinking of using these in:
enfieldspares
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I bought some once, 12 bore. as I thought they'd work well on Skeet. But no I was still just as sh1t a shot with them as I was without them! And they too were the X wad. I think they were branded as Browning when Browning branded cartridges were sold here in the 1980s.
Pine Marten
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I think I'll buy a box or two when I'm next in France. That said, I don't know what the score is going to be with crossing the channel with guns and cartridges now. Presumably nothing for 12 months, but after that, I doubt it will become simpler. Or even be addressed because it's hardly up the top of the list of priorities.
enfieldspares
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I think that the UK Fiocchi importers may help? They are or were located at Jamie Garland's farm at Garland's Shooting Centre at Edingale near Tamworth.
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