Shoot more Deer !

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David Barker said:
Not a saying i ever say and would not support that. I work with in seasons and manage my deer properly and sustainably. While we have the option to shoot males all year round and have other options like night shooting and thermal. These have never been needed by my friends or my self (Tools that will stay in the box) Most options have been trailed in Scotland with out success. While you southerners complain about dealing with large numbers it is nothing compared to what the estates and Rangers have had to deal with here. Mange your deer properly and you will have no problems use the brown its down attitude and you are never going to get your deer to a sustainable lesson. The next time you moan at deer and numbers try managing them in 3 foot of snow 6 thousand feet up a mountain.
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6 thousand feet up a mountain? not in Britain anyway. Ben Nevis 4413’.
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75 said:
I'd love to do this - nice bit of rough meadow over our garden wall that I could rent off the neighbours as it's hard to farm and produces very little hay. The cost of deer fencing is the bit that puts me off!!
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Not worth it on rented ground unless either the landowner does the fencing, or you've got at least a 15 year tenancy.
Buckaroo8 said:
It usually takes a bit of money to get enterprises up and running.
Maybe you could get a grant if you’re starting a small business ?
VSS might know how to find out?
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Didn't cost as much as you might think, and yes, grants were available. But only for the butchery side of things. No grants for fencing or anything like that.
 
VSS said:
Not worth it on rented ground unless either the landowner does the fencing, or you've got at least a 15 year tenancy.
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Yep, it's just a flight of fancy for when I win the lottery! I reckon there'd be about 1km of fencing to go in and I know how much it costs per m.
 
75 said:
Yep, it's just a flight of fancy for when I win the lottery! I reckon there'd be about 1km of fencing to go in and I know how much it costs per m.
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If there are existing stock fences in good condition then you could do a "top up" fence which would be a cheaper option. Cost me £6.68 per metre to upgrade my existing fences to deer fences, including materials and labour.
If you've only got a km to do, that doesn't work out so bad.
 
VSS said:
It's all fallow, and I provide loads of POS info about them.
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This is what puts me off even contemplating buying "venison" is that it's usually not labeled what species it is, even local restaurants don't know.

I love fallow venison and muntjac, I'll eat roe if my freezer is empty and it's the middle of summer and I have to shoot a buck. I've tried red deer a few times (even farmed deer) and it's always been too gamey and strong for my taste, and I usually hang my fallow for 2 weeks in the chiller.
 
Ratel said:
Yes but we have to stick by season's. Had it been doe season it would have been at least five.
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David Barker said:
Not worried just stating facts.
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Facts are facts and numbers are numbers. We shoot on average ten does per buck and we have to be extremely careful in well footpathed flat ground. Can only shoot bucks now from the younger end which makes it even more difficult.
Some folk ought to pay a visit then they may be able to pass comment. Until they do, best to keep their own counsel. End of story😷
 
David Barker said:
Not a saying i ever say and would not support that. I work with in seasons and manage my deer properly and sustainably. While we have the option to shoot males all year round and have other options like night shooting and thermal. These have never been needed by my friends or my self (Tools that will stay in the box) Most options have been trailed in Scotland with out success. While you southerners complain about dealing with large numbers it is nothing compared to what the estates and Rangers have had to deal with here. Mange your deer properly and you will have no problems use the brown its down attitude and you are never going to get your deer to a sustainable lesson. The next time you moan at deer and numbers try managing them in 3 foot of snow 6 thousand feet up a mountain.
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Never tried the 6 thousand feet anywhere but always found it much easier doing big culls on red hinds in deep snow at up to 2750ft in the Highlands compared with Fallow on open, well occupied land as flat as a witches tit.😉
 
David Barker said:
Not a saying i ever say and would not support that. I work with in seasons and manage my deer properly and sustainably. While we have the option to shoot males all year round and have other options like night shooting and thermal. These have never been needed by my friends or my self (Tools that will stay in the box) Most options have been trailed in Scotland with out success. While you southerners complain about dealing with large numbers it is nothing compared to what the estates and Rangers have had to deal with here. Mange your deer properly and you will have no problems use the brown its down attitude and you are never going to get your deer to a sustainable lesson. The next time you moan at deer and numbers try managing them in 3 foot of snow 6 thousand feet up a mountain.
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I've done both highland reds and lowland fallow/reds and in my experience shooting big numbers up in Scotland was easier for lots of reasons.
 
David Barker said:
Not a saying i ever say and would not support that. I work with in seasons and manage my deer properly and sustainably. While we have the option to shoot males all year round and have other options like night shooting and thermal. These have never been needed by my friends or my self (Tools that will stay in the box) Most options have been trailed in Scotland with out success. While you southerners complain about dealing with large numbers it is nothing compared to what the estates and Rangers have had to deal with here. Mange your deer properly and you will have no problems use the brown its down attitude and you are never going to get your deer to a sustainable lesson. The next time you moan at deer and numbers try managing them in 3 foot of snow 6 thousand feet up a mountain.
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there are definitely big herds of Reds in many (but not all) parts of the Highlands. However these are invariably on on rough hill land. The herd of fallow the the "southerners" complain about are just as large and generally very damaging to good quality agricultural land
 
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