acorn house
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So I’m buying a Mauser m12 impact in 6.5x55 and need some advice on the best copper rounds for this caliber? Mostly shooting Roe & muntjac but some fallow as well.
Best copper rounds for 6.5x55 muntjac/roe?
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Sako75Hunter
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I've been using Sako Powerhead 2 TTSX 120gr. solid copper on sika for about 5 years, and find them excellent. They seem to have been replaced by Sako Blade 120gr. now in the shops, and these are supposed to be even better, though I haven't yet tried them myself.
Heym SR20
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Whatever shoots well in your rifle. Try Fox, Peregrine, Yewtree or Barnes. Monolithics are no different to any other ammunition type - one brand works well in one rifle. But take the next identical rifle in same calibre, just one digit along in the serial numbering and chances are it will shoot well with another brand.
Buy, steal scrounge a few of each and try them out. The Fox bullet however is a flat based affair and seems to shoot well in pretty much all rifles. That would be my starting point. Bullets from @Edinburgh Rifles, load data for their factory ammo is on their website and stockists of their Fox and Peregrine ammo also website.
If your local emprorium doesn’t have any non lead offerings and sucks lots of teeth when asked to order in, take your business elsewhere.
Buy, steal scrounge a few of each and try them out. The Fox bullet however is a flat based affair and seems to shoot well in pretty much all rifles. That would be my starting point. Bullets from @Edinburgh Rifles, load data for their factory ammo is on their website and stockists of their Fox and Peregrine ammo also website.
If your local emprorium doesn’t have any non lead offerings and sucks lots of teeth when asked to order in, take your business elsewhere.
One on top of two
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Well I have bought a job job of Barnes 127 grn Lxr From my shooting buddy as he’s sold the rifle and he’s skint
I’m more than happy to let you have dozen to try no worries. I’ve been using them in my filthy creedmoor for a long time and love them . Also make a very good fox round too .
If you want to try some just let me know where to send them
I’m more than happy to let you have dozen to try no worries. I’ve been using them in my filthy creedmoor for a long time and love them . Also make a very good fox round too .
If you want to try some just let me know where to send them
100 grain ttsx or 120 ttsx failing that . 100 grain at 3200 fps does a tidy job ttsx copper is great when driven fast , it doesnt break up just very controlled expansion 4 spinning curls and a swift kill
Quarrybank
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Been using Sako 120gn TTSX and for last year Sellier and Bellot 120gn TXRG on Reds and Roe with good results. That’s in a Mauser M12 Extreme. With the twist it struggles to stabilise copper over 120gn.
big ears
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Sounds like you are looking for factory ammo. Sako, gecco and RWS all worth trying. In my experience fox bullets are no good in the 6.5 on the quarry you are hunting.
One on top of two
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We have good stock of factory loads in 6.5x55 from Fox Classic Hunter
100gr and 123gr
challenge for any retailer at the moment is getting reliable supply of any of the manor US or EU brands
Hard to recommend something you cant get hold of
100gr and 123gr
challenge for any retailer at the moment is getting reliable supply of any of the manor US or EU brands
Hard to recommend something you cant get hold of
big ears
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Problem is Ed in my experience fox bullets in the 6.5 x55 on roe and muntjac pencil through and do not kill quickly and run leaving a poor blood trail. Even if pinned through shoulders.
They are better on bigger species (although had a few disasters with reds) . He needs something more frangible to be sure of a quick kill.
acorn house
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Cheers for all the replies. Shot a few deer this year using lead core bullets but been wanting to make the switch to copper and 6.5 is a new calibre for me so every little bit of advice is appreciated.
Agree to disagree on this, while not currently using them I did use 100 rounds of the fox 123grn on a mix of fox, roe and fallow in my swede and had no issues at all with expansion. I’ve also used some of the fox ammo in my .222 for deer and fox and again, found them very good.
Running the 100gr in a swede you should be getting 3000fps
That kind of terminal velocity will remove the petals of any monolithic and kill anything quickly if put in the right place
No need to have them grenade and splinter all through the animal
That defeats the point of non lead
Game dealers don’t want ANY metal in the carcase
Pinning shoulders properly drops animals from the CNS shock
No blood trail required
FEE using 130/150gr .308 from 20” tikka/sako on roe with predominantly excellent results with a bigger slower bullet
Strange that the 6.5 would give you the results you have experienced
Anomalies do happen though
big ears
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I know , I know you keep saying this BUT real life shooting with real quarry does not support this on small animals. There are better than fox in the market for these.
big ears
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It’s not expansion it’s the lack of blood trail and long runners which was the issue. They didn’t kill quickly and when stalking in woodland this is an issue. Horses for courses and just shows one hat does not fit all.
I’m not the only one who has had these issues which is why I recommend people off fox bullets for small game
I say it not from my own comparatively limited personal experience but from the data obtained from 6m study involving several 400+ roe shot in the field from Apr to august 2016
12 individual criteria for each deer shot were recorded.
These compared to similar tests done on lead and other non lead used by a national forest agency.
The lack of expansion and pencilling you have observed in a much smaller data set doesn’t match the results from a much larger data set.
big ears
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Was enough for me and others using fox in other calibres who experienced this phenomenon in roe, fallow and red to stop using them.
Sorry it upsets you but we have stopped using them as they didn’t kill quickly and the lack of blood trail l lead to lost deer.
Other copper bullets on the market have not given these results.
Each to their own.
devon deer stalker
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Shoot them in the neck with fox or any copper bullet (I don't head shoot) and they go down, shoot them in the boiler room and I got mixed results, but I started to use Barnes TTSX and in my experiences did a better job than some I had used, point in fact a small fallow I shot recently, excellent blood trail and a swift end to the deer with minimum suffering.
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