Think it's more of a way of letting Starmer know we think he's a cxxt ! Not expecting it to change anything !
Effective, who knows
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Getting a feeling there's a few on this thread that maybe work in the public sector and don't run their own businesses 
He's already stated No F#£#@ Given
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Puds
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I do indeed work in the public sector, and have seen it absolutely gutted and left running on scraps over the last decade of Tory wilful mismanagement.Getting a feeling there's a few on this thread that maybe work in the public sector and don't run their own businesses
Whilst this is true, there is a certain irony that our elected representatives to a man said they would honour the result whatever it was, then a signficnat preriot spent the period in the immediate aftermath attempting to undermine the result and the negotiations. Combined with an incompetent PM/set of 'negotiators' resulted in what we ended up with.
Oh dear, next youll be calling them mouth breathers and knuckle draggers next.
Its sad that some feel that those who didnt go to university are universally stupid, primarily on the basis that they disagree with how they voted..
I never went to uni from school, there was no expectation that i would, nor did 99% of my peers at the local comp. At that time c.14% of people went to uni, proportionally it would have been those from public/grammar schools as opposed to local comps i suspect.
It is therefore not necessarily education that predicated voting for Brexit but maturity, with those less mature voting remain as they knew nothing else and voted for the status quo.
I did spend some time looking at accession polls across the eu, i neither have the time or the inclination to do so again, but what was clear is that in the majority of votes, across all EU countries, that the votes to join were close, and did not involve a majority of the eligible populations voting for in.
Those who whine about the leave vote are often silent about welsh independence which had a much smaller margin than the leave vote, and yet we didn't find a signficnat proportion of parliament seeking to obstruct 'Welsh independence' on the basis that it wasn't fair.
In closing i would observe there are some idiots and bigots who voted leave, but there are frankly some who voted remain too.
More fec=%*'n BREXIT!!!!
WHY is every thread polluted with it???????????
WHY is every thread polluted with it???????????
tackb
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More fec=%*'n BREXIT!!!!
WHY is every thread polluted with it???????????
not every thread , some blame donald trump for the worlds woes !
Almost 6 million voted for a re run of the Brexit vote, just a hunch but I think the general election petition will be joining it in the same bin when completed and sent
It's a known and fully accepted fact that it will not initiate a vote re run!!, It's just a vent!!!
Cheaper than a therapist thenIt's a known and fully accepted fact that it will not initiate a vote re run!!, It's just a vent!!!
Yup! Rah Rah!
Rasputin
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Getting a feeling there's a few on this thread that maybe work in the public sector and don't run their own businesses
Bums. Shouldn’t be allowed a vote it’s like turkeys voting for Xmas.
Unionised dross.
Agreed
Agreed
Disagree.
You would not tell any person in an abusive relationship to sit tight because leaving might be worse. You would tell them to leave.
Many who voted remain did so because the status quo seemed a good fit for life and business, but were utterly oblivious to the usurpation of national democracy being ushered in via Treaty of Lisbon. A good summary here:
shakey jake
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But they were remoaners!!! These people are totally different and their view should be respected!!!!
They are going to "Debate " this on January 6th, should be a laugh or two.
Puds
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Ah yes, all those doctors, nurses, teachers, police officers, council workers, civil servants etc.
Such dross…
To paraphrase and adapt one of your earlier comments:
The problem is, the majority of public sector workers haven’t been anywhere near a real business so don’t understand how work is done. It’s not something they comprehend so resort to complaining about Tories instead.
It is an unfortunate fact that if two people, one in the public sector and one in the private, produced exactly the same output in 1999; now the private sector worker is 50% more productive, and the public sector worker isn't. Yet the public sector workers is significantly better paid, and the private sector has much more tax and regulation to deal with, a lower standard of living and structurally negative prospects.
The idea that public sector workers are hard done by does not hold water. You may feel considerably less well-off than you think you ought to, everyone else does even more so and there is no solution in kicking the rest of the population further. The only solution to the problem is for the public sector to become radically more productive and to cut its scope significantly. Then everyone's standard of living could improve. The current approach of overloading the liferaft is unsustainable for anyone.
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